Josh,
I did not find any "Hellenian's comment", in the Indymedia. It seems kind of obvious -to me at least- that you fail to understand (or do understand but for some reason not admit it) regarding the differences between Zionists and Jews (or between Jews and Hebrews for that matter). Threatening the website (because that is what it comes down to) is not right (as a supposed indepedent media) tells a few things to us, the rest of the viewers regarding the pluralism of the views expressed. Think of Russia for example. Over 13 million people died there during WW2. There were many genocides in the 20th century (and there were deep reasons behind them). Your request for your people to be the only recognized ones to have suffered is not ethical, not right and ignites questions. Questions lead to research (and eventually the death of some researchers). If your case is so strong, then it wouldn't mind any opposition. If, on the other hand, a response is about threats, this means that the case is flawed in its foundation. This is the simple method of mathematical thought process.

Since there is no such comment as you stated, it seems that it got deleted, and the "Indepedent" Media Center regained your support (whatever that means)!

www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com

The Arabist movement and Indymedia must be exposed for what they really are.

see:

sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/04/120352_comment.php

sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/05/127448_comment.php

www.indybay.org/news/hidden.php

Joseph's casuistry is utter baloney. Security Council resolution 242 of Novermber 22, 1967:
"Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

"Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

"Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

"Affirms further the necessity

"For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;

"For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;

"For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;"

Besides even the original General Assembly admitting Israel to the UN was conditional upon its compliance with resolutions. For example, resolution 194 (III):
"11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;"

The right of return of Palestinian refugees has been re-stated annually ever since.

All things considered, Israel's very own existence is illegal under international law since it exists outside the Law!

Who started world war 2? Was it England and france for declairing war on Germany? Or was it Germany when they invaded Poland?

Zionists invadors of palestinian lands started that conflict and the Palestinian's Arabic speeking neighbors tried and failed to liberate palestine from the Zionist crusaders more than once. England also tried and failed to liberate Poland more than once.

France declaired war on germany. Who says that Nazi occupation of France was defensive??? Anyone other than international law???

The west bank was occupied by Jordan. Jordan tried and failed to drive Zionist crusaderSS out of Palestinian lands. Zionists occupied the west bank. Wow, the international law says that is ok.

International law, like fiat currency, only has value if you mentaly give it value. If someone overseas doesn't want to accept international law or your currency, then that is thier business. And you have no business forcing them to accept the value you place on either.

ZIonists steal palestinian lands in the west bank like Nazis stole Polish lands and gave it to Nazi oportunists like Oscar Schindler. Because the Nazi flag flew over Poland, Nazi Generals took bribes from the Schindler type oportunists and gave them pieces of paper saying they owned the Polish lands and factories. Because the ZIonist's flag flew over the west bank, ZIonist generals gave pieces of paper to Zionist oportunists saying that they owned the land. The pieces of paper Zionist generals give to ZIonist crusaders are every bit as valid as the pieces of paper Nazi Generals gave to Schindler and other Nazi oportunists.

Fatah operatives in Nablus continue to dispatch teenagers to terrorist missions, including suicide bombing attacks.
June 19, 2005

www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/6_05/teenagers_b.htm

UNRWA is often redirected to finance highly political NGOs, such as Ard el Atfal and Ard Al Insan

Israeli Committee Against House Demolition

www.ngo-monitor.org/issues/eu.htm

Jul. 6, 2005 18:36 | Updated Jul. 6, 2005 22:28
Palestinian teen caught carrying two bombs

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The reality is that the Grand Mufti Al -Husseni met with Adolf Hitler and planned with him how to achieve the Final Solution of Jews in hte Middle east. When the mufti raised three divisions of Islamic Waffen SS to undertake cruel operations in Bosnia, among the 30,000 killers were some volunteer contingents from Iran. Iranian Nazis, along with the other Muslim Waffen SS, operated under the direct supervision of Heinrich Himmler and were responsible for barbarous actions against Jews and others in Bosnia. Recruitment for the murderous “Handschar Divisions” was done openly in Iran. The unit, however, was basically Yugoslavian. According to one site quoting sources:

According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (Edition 1990, Volume 2, Pages 706 and 707), Mufti Hajj Amin al-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, made a major contribution to the Nazi war effort by organizing “in record time” Muslim SS units in Croatia. These units were involved in some of the worst atrocities of World War II.

An estimated 20,000 Muslims fought in the Hanjar (Sword) SS Division. Most of their activities were directed against the Yugoslav partisans, led by Josip Broz Tito, and the local Jewish and Romany populations. They also conducted police and security activities in Fascist Hungary. The Nazis recruited two SS divisions from Yugoslavia’s Muslim population: the Bosnian 13th Waffen Hanjar (or Handschar) SS division, and the Albanian Skanderbeg 21st Waffen SS division.

According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust:

They participated in the massacre of civilians in Bosnia and volunteered to join in the hunt for Jews in Croatia … The Germans made a point of publicizing the fact that Husseini had flown from Berlin to Sarajevo for the sole purpose of giving his blessing to the Muslim army and inspecting its arms and training exercises.From the Encyclopedia of Holocaust, Edition 1990, Vol. 2, page 704. The caption reads: Hajj Amin al-Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem, inspecting troops in Bosnia (1943).

According to the National Review:

The Mufti also recruited Bosnian Muslims for an all-Muslim unit of the SS called the “Handschar” division, which committed so many atrocities that 38 of its officers were later tried as war criminals. In July 1945, Husseini himself was indicted for war crimes by the Yugoslavian government. [emphasis added]

As a side note, The BBC News had an article in July 2001 entitled, Nazis planned Palestine subversion:

British secret intelligence files have been released in London about a German wartime plan for subversion in Palestine, when the territory was administered by Britain.

The plot involved parachute landings, thousands of gold coins and the Arab Muslim leader, Mohammed Amin el-Hussaini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who was then living in exile in Berlin.

It also had the approval of Hitler’s security chief, Heinrich Himmler.

…Palestine in 1944 was in a state of ferment, with the British Mandate authorities struggling to keep the lid on violent hostility between Arab and Jewish communities.The Germans, on the other hand, wanted to make things a great deal worse and planned - with the support of the Grand Mufti - to arm Palestinian villagers and incite them to rise up against the Jews.

A small commando team of two German officers and three Arabs was formed in Berlin in early 1944.

Their leader, Colonel Kurt Wieland, an Arabic speaker who knew Palestine, had several meetings with the Mufti and they agreed a plan: drop by parachute, establish a base, gather intelligence and radio it back to Berlin; and recruit and arm Palestinian supporters with Nazi gold.

The plan failed.

One last note-the change in name from Persia to Iran may itself have been influenced by Nazi Germany. According to The Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies:

The suggestion for the change is said to have come from the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of the Nazis. At the time Germany was in the grip of racial fever and cultivated good relations with nations of “Aryan” blood. It is said that some German friends of the ambassador persuaded him that, as with the advent of Reza Shah, Persia had turned a new leaf in its history and had freed itself from the pernicious influences of Britain and Russia, whose interventions in Persian affairs had practically crippled the country under the Qajars, it was only fitting that the country be called by its own name, “Iran.” This would not only signal a new beginning and bring home to the world the new era in Iranian history, but would also signify the Aryan race of its population, as “Iran” is a cognate of “Aryan” and derived from it.

Hajj Amin al Husseini was given bureaucratic authority and a large budget by the British when they made him Mufti of Jerusalem in 1920, after Hajj Amin demonstrated that he could organize large-scale terrorist attacks against innocent Jews in British Mandate ‘Palestine.’ He used this power to organize another terrorist riot in 1921 (after which the British expanded his budget and bureaucratic authority), and then a much larger attack in 1929, followed by an even bigger attack in 1936-37 (this last one was called the ‘Arab Revolt’ and was organized with weapons provided by the Nazis). Each time, Hajj Amin’s attacks were against civilians, and they included, for example, such things as torturing Jewish children to death. In 1941 Hajj Amin met Hitler in Berlin. Hitler promised to conquer the Middle East and exterminate all the Jews living there, after which Hajj Amin would be installed as the local leader. Hajj Amin, for his part, immediately became one of the supreme leaders of the Final Solution in Europe, organizing large SS divisions in Bosnia composed of tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslim volunteers who carried out large-scale exterminations of Serbs, Jews, and Roma (gypsies) in Yugoslavia. He also played an important role in getting hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews sent to Auschwitz, and in speeding up the operation of the death camps. Yasser Arafat proudly explained to his Arab audiences that Hajj Amin was his mentor and hero.