As the Bush War escalates, so does the intensity of propaganda cranked out by the corporate media. Voices that counter the onslaught of disinformation are desperately needed. Thus this hastily-constructed "Media MASH UNIT" is dedicated to providing life support to the first casualty of war: TRUTH.
THE "MYSTERIOUS MICROPHONE" PLOY
Although we have all now witnessed the wonders of visual "movie magic" in the editing of news footage (remember the missing protestors in the footage of the presidential inauguration?), a new, more insidious bit of "magic" is gaining favor with propagandists. I like to call this technique the "mysterious microphone" ploy, because it is a mystery how what the ear hears live and the network microphones transmit up can be so different! During the speeches given during the massive protest in Washington, D.C. before the war was declared, to hear C-SPAN 's audio coverage, there was often barely a ripple of response by the audience to the speakers. Of course, those present know that the applause and cheering from the crowd that punctuated the speeches was thunderous. But the audience at home, unaware of the live reality, would swear that the activists were playing to a subdued and/or small crowd.
When Michael Moore delivered his blast of the Bush Reich at the Oscars, he was, in reality, given a standing ovation and hearty applause. But, to hear the soundbyte presented on the network news, you'd never know it. All you can hear are boos...which, in fact, came from about five people, from eyewitness accounts.
Conversely, when Bush so much as smirks at a public affair, to hear the "mysterious microphones" tell it, every person in the place thunderously cheers and applauds. So when you combine the mysterious microphone effect with skillful editng you can, quite effectively, lie through your teeth.
Example: The network coverage of Moore (all 3 seconds of it) shows Moore briefly, then, while cutting to a handful of stony-faced people, cranks up the volumne on the five booers. The result: a totally false statement: Moore's speech was met by boos and grim silence, not by enthusiasm and a standing ovation
Michael Moore's statement at Oscars
"We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president," Moore said. "We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts."Applause gave way to some boos, as the orchestra began playing to cue the filmmaker to leave the stage."We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you," Moore shouted.
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi
While Moore received a STANDING OVATION, only a few booed probably Charlton Heston, Bruce "Please send me to Iraq, Mr. Bush" Willis, and Arnold "testosterone-challenged" Swharzenneger.
'When asked by reporters why he made the remarks, he answered: "I'm an American."
"Is that all?"
"Oh, that's a lot," Moore responded. He dismissed the jeers he received, telling reporters: "Don't report that there was a split decision in the hall because five loud people booed."
PROPAGANDA HIGHLIGHTS:
The captured American soldiers are being made the total focus of Bush's propaganda strategy at present. Why? Because, lacking any positive news on the U.S. troops progress in Iraq, he must resort to emotionally-charged diversions. In this way, he hopes to rivet the attention of Americans on these five soldiers - and away from the sufferings and dangers of the 250,000 he has sent into hell in the Iraqi desert.
MEDIA/PENTAGON LIE: U.S. soldiers were executed by the Iraqis...this story is continuing to be allowed to float out there, unopposed by any official statement to the contrary, thereby causing needless anguish in exchange for whipping up war fervor.
TRUTH: The alleged bodies of the supposedly executed U.S. soldiers are dressed in GREEN UNIFORMS. Hello!!! That is not what American soldiers are wearing in Iraq. They are wearing desert fatigues, which are different shades of tan with NO GREEN. In short, the Pentagon knew from the second that footage was aired that those bodies were not American soldiers. But it allowed the networks to push the issue to the max, wringing as much outrage as possible from the public.
PENTAGON LIE: 3/24: Tommy Franks tells reporters that as proof of violation of the Geneva convention by Iraq, the Red Cross has not been allowed to see the U.S. soldiers held as POWs.
TRUTH: As even Franks, when pressed was forced to admit, the Red Cross has been brought into the Iraq conflict at all yet - he has failed to even call them for the 2,000 or so Iraqi POWs the Americans are holding.
DATELINE CRIME: On Dateline, reporters were aggressively trying to promote hate and rage in Americans. The reporters showed the Al-Jazeera videos of the bodies to an audience in a small town in Alabama - thus insuring they would have the rightest of the rightwing audiences possible. This kind of manipulation is tantamount to waving red meat in front of a pack of mean and hungry dogs - or showing trumped up evidence of a crime by a black man to a roomful of KKKers.
I keep waiting for network journalists working on these shows to reveal evidence of guts - or at least of a soul - and speak up. But no, that next McMansion payment or trip to the Caribbean is just too darn important to risk.
FOX "public service" AD: This ad has been running on FOX frequently, and usually is slugged in right after footage of anti-war protests. It features five scrubbed "college students" making a patriotic statement...However, after this ad, no attribution is given. This is suspicious to say the least, because even the Tobacco companies have to cite at the end who paid for their "public service" PR ads. So I suspect that a rightwing corporate front group such as the Heritage Foundation, Free Enterprise Institute, or, at the least :Young Republicans are behind this. It says it all that the pro-war folks have to buy their forums because they do not have enough real grassroots supports to raise so much as a whimper on their own.
LIE: Pentagon is cooperating with the media in the field.
TRUTH: A report from a jouralist in Iraq, forwarded to me last night:"All reports coming from the journalists attached to the coalition units are now being strictly censored by the military. All live broadcasts, as those seen during the first day of the war, are now strictly prohibited by a special order from the coalition command. The required time delay between the time news video footage was shot and
the time it can be broadcast has been increased to a minimum of 4"
NOTE: The purpose of the glitzy video stage built in Qatar by the Hollywood studio contracted by Bush now becomes abundantly clear....soon we won't even need the journalists in the field at all - they can just stand in front of the screen while Pentagon Productions airs footage from Black Hawk Down and other "special order" flicks.
LIE: Jordan is neutral.
TRUTH: Jordan has allowed the anti-Iraq coalition to place surveillance radars and radio
reconnaissance stations on its territory. Jordan has also allowed the coalition to use its military airbases. "
LIE Being perpetuated on many networks, local and national – including Channel 13 Baltimore: Current U.S. Intelligence in the Middle East is excellent, the best ever.
TRUTH: US intelligence in the Middle East has plummeted downhill since Bush took office, largely because of Bush’s personal political manipulation of the CIA and FBI. For example, top FBI Osama Bin Laden hunter John O’Neill was pulled off the case just as he was closing in on the Al Queda leader in the summer of 2001. O’Neill quit in disgust, and, ironically, ended up as a security head at the WTC, where he died trying to rescue victims on 9/11.The good intelligence of the CIA has been ignored or “tweaked” by Bush to such an extent that current agents are beginning to give their notices rather than “lie for Bush,” while veteran retired agents are calling for agents willing to expose the Bush abuse of the agency to speak out. Now that Bush has gone into Iraq against the CIA’s advice, the Pentagon is trying to pin the disaster on intelligence people. This report came in from a Russian source:
"A CIA referent in the combat area Col. Davis (likely to be a pseudonym) and the US DoD Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) regional
director were demoted due to their inadequate performance in
estimating the strength of Iraq's forces and their combat readiness."
LIE: Tommy Franks says progress is being made, the war is going well.
TRUTH: Quote from Franks intercepted by Russian radio operator: "We've just spent three days trying to capture one small town, so we can only guess what awaits us in Baghdad!"
PENTAGON LIE: The U.S. troops are "speeding across the Desert."
TRUTH: (Even most journalists are reporting this)Progress is paintstakingly slow...almost at a standing still for hours at atime.
LIE: Bush has a massive humanitarian aid plan ready for Iraq
TRUTH: Letter from aid worker, received last night:
Cheryl Seal, I was at a humanitarian organization meeting yesterday (and forgive me but I just don't want the government knowing by reading this which one it was).
We were told that what chills all the humanitarian organizations, who are currently not allowed across the borders into Iraq for war reasons (etc.), is that the USA post-war reconstruction plan is TWO pages long. Does this surprise us from a country that is defying international law and probably has no reconstruction plans other than those that put millions in the pockets of cronies. Never mind that as the invading country, they have the obligation to look after the food, welfare, and shelter of the citizens of the country they have invaded.
What a chilling, disgusting farce.
Name of sender provided but withheld by Cheryl Seal
For latest updates on humanitarian aid in Iraq – see the Red Cross Iraq update section:
www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList4/7B9A3990E50D6C0EC1256CF30057E7DB
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COVERUP PROPAGANDA: France and Russia have been supplying weapons and money to Iraq
TRUTH: Extensive weapons caches have been found by allied troops, but most of them came from the British weapons manufacturer Wallop
1. British manufacturer's weapons linked to hidden cache of missiles
www.news.scotsman.com/international.cfm
LIE: Kurds who accused Wallops of providing Iraq with weapons lied and were subsequently tried and found guilty for “criminal damages.”
TRUTH: The Kurds did not lie - the weapons from Wallops they described have been found in Iraqi bunkers - see above link to the news story in :The Scotsman.”
LIE: Arrogantly promulgated by a British general on 3/24: “The Allies don’t need more troops.”
TRUTH: The “Allies” cannot adequately support the people they now have advanced far into the desert their with the present supply lines, let alone more people.
REALITY CHECK ON THE POW SITUATION
Americans are outraged at the way Iraq TV is displaying the five American POWs. However, this outrage is, alas, diluted in the eyes of the world by America's incredible hypocrisy on such issues. Here are the chief issues:
1. Bush is the one of the only world leaders who refused to sign the treaty setting up the International Criminal Court aimed at making sure nations are held accountable for war crimes and crimes against humanity wherever they occur. This means that U.S. forces cannot be prosecuted, technically, under international law, regardless of what outrages they may commit, if any. More significantly, it means that Bush himself cannot be held accountable for a war that may result in widespread atrocitiesd and, very possibly, in the use of nuclear weapons should Bush feel too threatened.
www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/icc/crisis/0817power.htm
2. Human rights activisits and several world leaders have condemned the treatment of the muslim POWs held in Guantanomo Bay by the Bush administration as in flagrant violation of the Geneva Convention. In fact, initially, Bush declared these men "enemy combatants," rather than POWs, thereby hoping to exclude them from protection by the Geneva Convention. These men have were paraded and photographed in every imaginable degrading posture, tied into crouched positions, etc. Attempted suicides among these men has become an epidemic. Yet Bush sees nothing wrong in THIS.
3. Thanks to Bush, America is one of only two nations on Earth that have refused to ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The other hold out is the notoriously patriarchal and human rights-abusing third-world nation of Somalia. The Convention, which, according to UNICEF, is "the most widely and rapidly ratified human rights treaty in history" is not only aimed at insuring basic rights such as adequate food and education for children everywhere, it is designed to insure they are not victimized or exploited, especially in times of war. Now, at war, with children being the most acute victims of all types of suffering, and after the war, as adequate care cannot be achieved, Bush is "off the hook", at least in his own sociopathic mind.
Marching on Babylon with "Second Coming" Bush:
Bush has granted ultrarightwing Christian reporters precious "embedded reporter" newspots, including Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network. Gotta be in on the "glorious unfolding" of biblical prophecy, eh? This prohesy calls for the invasion of Babylon - i.e., modern Iraq. In short, the war on Iraq is probably, at its heart, an elaborate acting out of the religious fantasies of Bush and the powerful rightwing fanatics who support him. Because the mainstream media are unquestioningly supporting Bush, they are, by default, supporting this insane scenario. Check out this religious fanatic site. You will see that they proudly list their selected network information providesr: CNN, FOX, MSNBC and the pro-Blair/ush BBC. You will also notice to the right of the page that "Iraq in Bibilical Prophecy" (as in Armageddon and the Rapture) is the subject of popular fundie literature. .
www.bible-prophecy.com/wariraq.htm
Comments
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24 Mar 2003
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24 Mar 2003
Timothy
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25 Mar 2003
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25 Mar 2003
Americans are afraid and thus are clinging to their Commander in Thief and his cronies, to feel safe. They don't notice that their rights are drifting away silently but relentlessly. I hope my kids live along enough to see America get back on her moral feet.
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25 Mar 2003
You are making unfounded conclusiopns to your opinions. YOu are, by all means, entitled to an opinion. But, you seem to insert you opinion as truth. You are only doing what most reporters and writers do, bending facts to support your own leaning view. Shame on the propagandis media, I include YOU in this statement.
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25 Mar 2003
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25 Mar 2003
Cheryl Seals, I'll have to check you out a little longer but from what I read here you look promising.
Keep up the good work!
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25 Mar 2003
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25 Mar 2003
Robert S. Finnegan
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
Jakarta, Indonesia
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
25 Mar 2003
[quote]You are making unfounded conclusiopns to your opinions. YOu are, by all means, entitled to an opinion. But, you seem to insert you opinion as truth. [/quote]
Propaganda will ultimately do nothing but inflame emotions on either side, that is the intention.
To the author of the article, I definately appreciate your research. I know your heart is in the right place, but please can you leave the propaganda out of it?
If you truly want to provide information that may change the mind of people who support Bush and his illegal war (rather than preaching to the choir - as good as it feels, it provides ammo for the Pro-Bushers), you need to state fact as facts and leave the emotional rhetoric off the page.
Again, thank you for your time and efforts.
Working together we can change the world.
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
25 Mar 2003
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25 Mar 2003
So I commend in your efforts to brang down the Evil Bush Empire built on over the years of blood sweat & even more blood over the expansion of a 6000 year period. As the world once again cry for peace as they did one a long time ago we will stand & the fall of another Roman Empire. E tu Brutus?
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26 Mar 2003
TRUTH: The alleged bodies of the supposedly executed U.S. soldiers are dressed in GREEN UNIFORMS. Hello!!! That is not what American soldiers are wearing in Iraq. They are wearing desert fatigues, which are different shades of tan with NO GREEN. In short, the Pentagon knew from the second that footage was aired that those bodies were not American soldiers. But it allowed the networks to push the issue to the max, wringing as much outrage as possible from the public."
I've no doubt that the pentagon is milking this for every bit of hypocritical outrage possible, but your conclusions are off-base. I've actually seen a lot of coverage showing GI's in green fatigues -- although the jumping-off point was the Kuwaiti dessert, I assume they plan on doing a lot of fighting in the Fertile Crescent, where the green is more relevent. Also, this was a supply troop that was ambushed, so they were not equipped for front-line combat.
Now speaking of ambush: If you'll forgive my clinical analysis of the scene, I suspect the gunshot wounds to the head of two of the soldiers are from a sniper attack. It makes sense in my mind that snipers were part of a guerilla-style ambush. More sense than executing two soldiers while taking the others captive.
I payed carful attention and it was Fox News (big surprise) that reported, without question, that the soldiers were executed. Other networks presented it as a possibility, which is bad enough. That really boils my blood.
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
26 Mar 2003
to all 2 of you who think this is unfounded propaganda, let me just tell you that she has done her research and that i have had many credible sources give me this information as well. it's all so true!
keep up the good work cheryl.
fuck the machine!
Real bible Prophecy
26 Mar 2003
And after these things, I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the Earth was lightened with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is Fallen! And is become the habitation of Devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. (America has fallen, morals decaying, the nation now a home of sins and demons. The bird reference is a subtle way of pointing out the symbol America goes by…the Eagle.)
For ALL NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the ABUNDANCE of her delicacies. (America is the richest nation, the nation that wants for nothing and is the envy of all. It is the ability to trade and deal with us that determines another country’s wealth. Cuba, Iraq…look at what they have become because we wont trade with them. We are the whore of Babylon, our country has lured every leader (Blair, Putin, ect..) to be a friend of ours just to partake of our riches. This much is apparent to all.)
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and god hath remembered her iniquities. (This tells us not to follow our government, not to cave in and follow our leaders down this path of evil. I believe it tells us to leave, but for those of us who cannot, we must remain clean. An example of these plagues that befall the unclean of this nation would be AIDs. Those who live the opulent life that America rewards people for wanting will be stricken with plagues of their own. In other words: Be wary, and keep the moral high ground at all times.)
Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill her to double. (This means, I believe, that we must give our country grief and sorrow the same way she has given us grief and sorrow. That we must protest, and fight, and battle, and raise up against her every time she raises up against us. That for every war our country instigates, we must create a war of our own against her. The million man march, anti-war protests…these are the best examples I can give.)
How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. (This states the sad truth that our country does not care about other countries and lives “high on the hog” so to speak, conveniently forgetting that we are ignoring the pain of the third world nations that cry for our help. Our nation glorifies itself and calls itself great, it calls itself a nation of god, under god, for god, and it acts like the agent of the devil. So, since “she” does not experience the sorrow and pain of these other nations, then the bible says to give her pain and sorrow. In a way, this validates every protest or march the activists have done so far, and somewhat frighteningly, might also validate terrorist attacks against America, although you would not catch me doing such a thing.)
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.(The “one day” quote is not to be taken seriously. Especially since a day in heaven is nearly a year or two on earth, according to the apocryphal studies. However, think about what the past two years have been like. 9/11, the Columbia disaster, two nightclub disasters, Anthrax scares galore, and now a horrible war on the horizon. We are a nation under siege, a nation in mourning, a nation who is at the bottom of a pit of sorrow. America is being judged by god.)
And the kings of earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning. (The countries that benefit from their close association with us like England, for instance, will cry for us and mourn for us…such as the mourning after 9/11, because our collapsed economy will also affect their economy as well.)
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas the great city of Babylon, that mighty city for one hour is thy judgment come. (For fear of being attacked the same way, many countries will “stand afar” from us, meaning they will distance themselves from us and refuse to help us or join us in our battles. This much is incredibly obvious. America will be judged.)
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26 Mar 2003
One thing that made me think this man was credible was a story that a close freind of my family told me 10 years ago when he got back from Gulf war 1. He said that so many Iraqi soldiers were surrendering to his crew that they didn't have enough resources to give them, and couldn't easily transport them across the desert. So him and his battalion had them dig a long trench, lined up about 200 soldiers and shot them all, and used their tanks or jeeps or whatever to bury the trench. He told me this story with a very cold look in his eye, and I've always beleived him.
I think that America will find Chemical weapons in Iraq. After all, Chemical Weapons in Iraq have always been Made in the USA.
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
26 Mar 2003
please keep in mind that a vote counts more than a comment here. don`t forget this at your next elections.
andi from romania, "friend" of the US :(
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
26 Mar 2003
I thanked Cheryl for her efforts of putting forth the truth (facts, not opinion) and for the article.
I appreciate the facts in the article, but also think it could be presented in a less emotional, rhetoric manner in order to get through to a broader audience.
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26 Mar 2003
A lot of the soldiers in desert uniforms are carrying green equipment (ALICE packs, water bags, etc.) ... the POWs and KIAs were not front-line soldiers, they were in a resupply convoy - and were probably reservists who would most likely NOT have been issued desert camo - I'm not sure the US Army has enough to go around. If you look at pictures from the front of the first Gulf War, a lot of coalition soldiers, including US troops were in green uniforms - and maybe the US never thought it would need a couple hundred thousand more desert camo sets.
By the way, this is just a guess, and I am way against this bushit war.
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26 Mar 2003
Reality: FALSE!! There are many American troops in Iraq with green uniforms. You can see pictures of them in the news, on the web and in print. Many of the marine units are not from CENTCOM units and therefore do not have the DCU's. I was stationed at CENTCOM for 5 years and currently work for SOCCENT. I can tell you that it is fact that MANY U.S. combatants in IRAQ still wear green BDU's. for starters, here is some proof. herald-sun.com/nationworld/14-333618.html Click through to see MOST wearing green BDU's
Please do the research before posting this inflamatory crap. Makes me wonder how much of this article is as poorly researched.
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26 Mar 2003
Thank you for an excellent article. Between the web sites like this one and the library books (Chomsky, Vidal) I'm reading, I can finally get a balanced view of what's happening. The television propoganda is disgusting.
Thank you for having the guts and integrity to report honestly.
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26 Mar 2003
Support the troops & get Dubya out of our hair... dave
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26 Mar 2003
Please post the eyewitness accounts, or references to them. All I see here is Moore's own off-hand comment. We all need info and the lineage of that info if we're going to make sense of what is happening.
Thanks
Mike Garrett
BUSH PROVEN LIAR. Believing in him means your lying to yourslf.
26 Mar 2003
Cheryl - Nice work :) Go Hard!
WWW.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM
26 Mar 2003
THIS SITE SHOWS THE TRUTH BACKED UP WITH EVIDENCE FOR THOSE SCEPTICS.
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26 Mar 2003
And, believe me, the pro-war govt battling for the hearts and minds of the People LOVE feces like Mr Moore--he TOTALLY discredits the anti-war movement. Cease being used ASAP. Exercise your brain.
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26 Mar 2003
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26 Mar 2003
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26 Mar 2003
JonUs
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26 Mar 2003
Michael Moore: According to news sources, including the one you referenced, Michael Moore is the one that said only 5 people booed.
Propaganda: Of Course Bush is going to try and make Iraq look bad. Isn't that the point of any war? As for us doing badly, the only people who ever said this was going to be a quick war was the media. Bush and Co. only said they hoped for a collapse to quicken the war, but several have said from the begining this wouldn't be a one week war.
Tommy Franks statement intercepted by Russian Radio: We have the most advanced military in the world, and you think a Russian Radio operator picked up that statement?
Jordan is Neutral: Can't argue with this one. They have been helping us since the start
British manufacturer's weapons linked to hidden cache of missiles: Did you bother to read the article you linked, and if you did, you obviously don't know your history. The British weapons, according to the article, were sold to Iraq in the 80s, long before sanctions on weapons were placed on Iraq.
Progress is slow: They're 50 miles outside of Baghdad, captured 3 airfields outside the Syrian border, and have had to deal with a horrific sandstorm. They also have to keep their supply lines open. You don't just drive up to Baghdad and start attacking.
2 page reconstruction: Yes one letter from someone secondhand proves that beyond a doubt (note sarcasm) I'm sure the government just hands out there entire reconstruction plan to everybody.
Mideast intelligence is bad: Let's see:
They managed to capture several major Al-Qeida operatives, including the man believed to have planned Sep 11
They hit Saddam Hussein (and if they didn't, where is he?) on the opening night.
Maybe if they found Bin Laden, I'd give them an A, but still not too shabby.
Executed troops: I can't argue with this either; I haven't seen the footage, but until they prove it, but then again, you can't prove they didn't
Reporters censored: First off, one report does not prove anything. Secondly, the military has ALWAYS made sure to censor reporters in the field, mainly because they don't want the enemy to gain intel. This is a standard, excepted war practice.
Dateline: I can't argue with this. Dateline sucks. They just go for ratings.
Some of the you wrote here is pure garbage, others might be true but just writing it down without backing it up proves nothing. If you don't like Bush and the war that is one thing; but at least back up you statements with fact as opposed to hearsay and twisting the facts. You are making yourself look just as bad as those you are trying to expose.
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
26 Mar 2003
BTW, in my repsonse above, I don't mean to say the American media isn't biased, because I believe it is. It was just that many Cheryl's comments were either wrong(such as the green uniform comment) or had no basis in fact I felt I had to respond. If you are going to blast the media for being biased, don't be biased yourself and do your research, and back it up with the sources.
I also forgot to mention the Red Cross access to Iraqi POWs; I freely admit I have been unable to find any news that the Red Cross has been provided access to the Iraqi POWS, but I also haven't been able to find any news that says Franks admitted that the Red Cross hadn't been given access.
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26 Mar 2003
Hello??? Pilots where flight suits!!!!! These are GREEN!!!!!!!
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26 Mar 2003
I am also truly amazed that Bush is stomping his feet and complaining that the Iraqi soliders aren't fighting fair because they pretend to surrender then start shooting at our troops. Has anyone explained to this squeaky eyed idiot that war is not about playing fair?
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26 Mar 2003
Please post the eyewitness accounts, or references to them. All I see here is Moore's own off-hand comment. We all need info and the lineage of that info if we're going to make sense of what is happening.
Thanks
Mike Garrett
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27 Mar 2003
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
27 Mar 2003
I watched the oscars the other night. I don't know about you, but I heard a mix of booing and cheering (which wasn't at all unexpected), without any solid decisive force supporting either side. Most people just sat there agape, probably a little surprised that anyone would make such an inflammatory comment at the event (though I'm sure Roman Polanski was thankful for it).
Only frontline soldiers are given DCUs. Idiot.
The pentagon puts the time delay requirement in effect for the exact same reasons that EVERY OTHER MILITARY operation ever has - it's a security risk. If the pentagon wanted to censor the reporters from showing the 'truth', they certainly wouldn't be showing videos of bombed out iraqi homes and dead children.
The only people claiming Jordan's neutrality are the Jordanian government. That was obvious from the start.
"DATELINE CRIME: On Dateline, reporters were aggressively trying to promote hate and rage in Americans. The reporters showed the Al-Jazeera videos of the bodies to an audience in a small town in Alabama "
They also showed the video to citizens in Los Angeles, Orlando, New York, Columbus, Toronto, London, Washington D.C., and Paris. Then they compared the reactions of people to the video. Funny how that works.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest, because it's the same idiotic drivel across the board. I'll just leave you with this FACT:
In less than a week, the coalition has advanced to within 100 miles of Baghdad whilst suffering less than two dozen total casualties, all told. That's successful, no matter what sort of slant you try to put on it.
Fact #2: Millions of citizens in basra are currently living in the desert heat with no water, no sewage, and little to no food. Idiots like you are more concerned with the fact that a few soldiers weren't wearing the same color uniforms as their allies than this tragedy. Quit clouding the issue and use a little common sense before you decide to spew your drivel. You hurt the anti war case more than anything our idiot leaders ever possibly could.
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
27 Mar 2003
"the reason they want to nail him is cuz he wants to take over the middle east, thus disturbing the delicate balance of power there and our sweet oil deal there... the majority of our oil comes from the middle east. and that's not a horrible reason, but i don't think it's worth pissing on the UN and the rest of the world for, not to mention all the loss of life. plus, they should just be upfront about it... but they wouldn't, because then the 75% of people supporting the war probably wouldn't. we always have our nose in middle eastern nation's business. we helped saddam get his position because we thought he'd help us with the oil situation. then he bites our butt, and we're like "whaaaaa? helping a military group take over a nation could end up bad? how did i not forsee this?" oh dude, the war just reminded me of some other horrible crap. the government is spending billions on the war and even more on a tax break that will give the average middle class family only 200-300 dollars more to work with this year. meanwhile, educational funding is going down nationwide. YAY. which is just what the administration wants. an even dumber country for future presidents to use and abuse."
jn
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
27 Mar 2003
jn
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
27 Mar 2003
I would like to see someone research and report facts on the "Conflict of Interest" issue which is embeded in this Administration.If I could get some real facts about this, I would publish them in local papers at my own expence.
Thank you,
Dana J. Tompkins
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
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Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
28 Mar 2003
Great article - just when it is needed to counter all the lies/propaganda - believe nothing you here right now! The powers that be want to spread confusion right now and keep everyone guessing. Keep an open mind
Re: CHERYL SEAL REPORTS MARCH 24: Anti-propaganda Media Analysis
28 Mar 2003
Peace.
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29 Mar 2003
ADD ME TO YOUR LIST !
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30 Mar 2003
Keep up the good work, Cheryl
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